I would not be surprised if Nonito knocked Inoue out cold. I really wouldn’t. I feel like Nonito is blessed by god with the gift of timing. I don’t know if he could ever teach anyone what he does, but he knows how to apply it. He can simply punch at an opening in spots maybe no one else in history can punch in. The shot he hit Montiel with has a case for being the best punch ever thrown. Montiel literally was landing a right hand as Nonito was whipping a hook flush on his temple that almost killed him.
Inoue should win the fight. He’s younger by over a decade and he’s just as talented and skilled. I honestly want to give Inoue props for taking this rematch. Most wouldn’t in his position. The last thing you want to do is give Nonito extra looks. It’s like giving another Bay Area swatter Barry Bonds extra at bats in 2003. It’s just not worth it. I expect another shootout because this is their temperament. Both are killers. Both are humble but violent human beings.
Hi Breadman, We are after a long expected fight: Bivol vs Canelo. What is your take on offical scores? I feel there is not enough disgust expressed even though, or maybe because, the better man was awarded a win, hardly though. All 3 judges ensured to give Alvarez an undeserved head start and had him just beaten by the end. We are talking here about 3 top judges in the sport, not about amateurish lot. I think that commissions and regulators need to have a closer look at scoring in professional boxing. They would be much better off (i.e. fairer scoring + cheaper) if they let me judge it for 1/10th of what they pay to any of them. If they do not wanna employ me, fine. I am sure that many other casual fans would score this fight better. Such situation is somewhat ridiculous. Anyone who gave Saúl more then 3 rounds must have been strongly biased. Situations when a reigning champion has to soundly outbox challenger to get minimal decision (or does not get it) must stop if this is a sport. Otherwise promoters should bill it by name; theatre.
All the best, Bread. Cannot wait for hearing from you, Marek
Bread’s Response: I don’t like to call judges corrupt because it’s the hardest job in boxing. And judges don’t view the fight on tv with the assistance of punch stats and moving angles. I think the judges in this fight were very good judges. But I think they made the mistake that most judges make in these instances. They give too much credit to the fighter that is supposed to win based on what they think should be happening and what will eventually happen, instead of what is ACTUALLY happening.
A scorecard is turned in after every round, so it’s not like they can go back and say oh I realize what Bivol is doing now. In a 12 round fight every round is crucial. The fighter who wins 7 rounds wins the fight. I think some very good judges simply over valued what Canelo was doing early. And by the time they realized it, it was almost too late. Bivol should not have HAD to win the 12th round to not get a DRAW. Bivol won between 8-10 rounds in this fight. And no he didn’t get swept in the 1st four rounds which is the point of controversy.
Canelo did some good things early. He has a fair case for 2 of the first four rounds. Maybe 3 out of 4 if you go out of your way. But a clean sweep in the first 3rd of the fight was too much. Much too much. Bivol was in a position where he officially had to win 7 out of the last 8 rounds to win a fight that it appeared he won after 10 rounds.
I am respectful to everyone in boxing. I won’t say some of the things that have been said because I honestly believe judging is such a hard job. But they have to get it right. I think the judges miscalculated how effective Canelo was being. It can happen with his mystique and the crowd etc etc. Canelo is an ATG fighter and he does the same thing in each fight. He calculates, he lands big single shots, he breaks his opponents down and he either stops them or he cruises to a UD. And he’s so calm with his defense that it’s hard to see punches that effect him. So it’s common to give him more credit than he deserves. In this case he got more credit than he deserved. He didn’t sweep rounds 1-4.
In the spirit of fair play. Overall I think something needs to be done in boxing about two things. I know I wasn’t asked about drug testing but we may as well clean up everything all at once. So I will state both. In scoring a fight it’s time we get 5 judges. 4 judges at ring side and 1 judge watching on a monitor that has the same feed as the viewing audience. The majority wins just like with 3 judges. If a judge turns in a scorecard that is deemed off, this judge needs to be interviewed and more importantly mandated to come to the post fight press conference and discuss what he saw and why he scored the way he did. Judges get to go covert in their identity and this is an issue. We may know a name or two but no one really knows their faces. It’s time they come out of the shadows. Scoring a fight is subjective and no one will agree 100% on every judges perception of fights. But when the perception is far off from what the majority perceived, the judge should at least be mandated to explain what he saw. And if his perception is consistently off, then he shouldn’t be allowed to keep judging.
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In boxing a judge can give a poor scorecard and be rewarded with more big fights. A referee can be consistently bad and keep getting big fights. That’s more of an issue for me. Let’s remember CJ Ross scored the Pacquiao vs Bradley fight poorly then she scored the Mayweather vs Canelo fight poorly. She shouldn’t have been the judge in the Mayweather vs Canelo fight. I don’t mean to single her out and I apologize if it seems I’m attacking her. I’m not. But she’s the most prevalent example I can think of with a judge being allowed to keep judging after a poor scorecard. Had she been interviewed and reprimanded maybe the 2nd scorecard wouldn’t have been turned in.
